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This kid has amazing pocket presence, an amazing ability to escape any rush and a great arm. 7 games into the season and he has 2000 yards, 15 TD’s and 4 INT’s. I feel like he never gets the respect he deserves. They say you can’t win paying him and letting the defense get weaker. They say he won’t last running the ball. They say he isn’t that good. Well, he is.”/>

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He’s sensible, athletic and humble. He has no operating sport and no offensive line and but right here they’re at 5-2 and main the division. I actually do not see many variations between the Giants and Seattle apart from the QB. The Giants have significantly better weapons on offense(a minimum of they did coming into the season).

This child has superb pocket presence, an incredible capability to flee any rush and an ideal arm. 7 video games into the season and he has 2000 yards, 15 TD’s and four INT’s. I really feel like he by no means will get the respect he deserves. They say you’ll be able to’t win paying him and letting the protection get weaker. They say he will not final operating the ball. They say he is not that good. Well, he is.

man’s sport and I am unable to determine why. He’s a good passer, he is cellular to the purpose the place he could make performs along with his legs, and he looks like a good man off the sector. His staff has regularly been within the operating regardless of some critical expertise deficiencies on O. And but, in the event you ask somebody to rattle off the highest 10 QBs in soccer, he is normally not on that record. Go determine.

this is the kind of QB I might like subsequent for the Giants (ideally a bit taller)

I believe making an attempt to construct the 5 blocks of granite up entrance is 1) time consuming, and a couple of) laborious to construct and maintain. That is why we hear most staff’s weak spot is their Oline.

so except you’re going to construct that impenetrable wall up entrance, you want a QB who could make issues occur along with his legs, throw precisely on the run, escape strain and customarily be an enormous time athlete.

In remark 13669261 LG in NYC mentioned:
this is the kind of QB I might like subsequent for the Giants (ideally a bit taller)

I believe making an attempt to construct the 5 blocks of granite up entrance is 1) time consuming, and a couple of) laborious to construct and maintain. That is why we hear most staff’s weak spot is their Oline.

so except you’re going to construct that impenetrable wall up entrance, you want a QB who could make issues occur along with his legs, throw precisely on the run, escape strain and customarily be an enormous time athlete.

Lol, would not everybody desire a taller Russell Wilson?

Would have my vote for MVP proper now.

he threw an interception that price Seattle a Super Bowl…

that Wilson does not get the respect he deserves. I’ll acknowledge that the love-fest has died down a bit, however everybody was licking his junk since his rookie 12 months.

He’s an incredible participant who has been held again not too long ago by a subpar OL (sound acquainted?). He was barely overrated previously, however most likely a bit of underappreciated now. I do not suppose that continues after yesterday’s sport. Wow.

He jogs my memory of Fran Tarkenton however with a stronger arm.

In remark 13669302 Tark10 mentioned:
He jogs my memory of Fran Tarkenton however with a stronger arm.

Reminds me of Staubach.

In remark 13669255 Jimmy Googs mentioned:

I might even accept simply Thursdays, Sundays and Mondays.

all I hear is reward.

Biggest questions had been popping out of faculty and about his peak and I believe he is confirmed it to not be an obstacle, a minimum of not whereas he is nonetheless cellular and may transfer round inside and out of doors the pocket.

In 5 seasons he is been to three pro-bowls (which perhaps is not the perfect gauge) however he is in a convention with Rodgers, Brees, and Matt Ryan (who whereas perhaps not in that class had an MVP season final 12 months). Plus once you add in Prescott who will get extra credit score than he might deserve or guys Romo up till the previous couple years, it is a crowded place. And that is simply NFC – not All-Pro which then provides Brady, Ben,and so on.

But I hardly ever hear damaging about Wilson, perhaps probably the most damaging factor about him is that his protection leads the staff and it is laborious to argue with that apart from the Super Bowl debacle which had a number of factors of failure.

I’ll say this although, when somebody requested for a taller Wilson, I believe you noticed him in Seattle yesterday with DeShaun Watson, who may simply not be taller he is perhaps completely higher.

to keep away from the frenzy is HUGE. He makes performs when he has to, which is what you need in a QB. I used to be by no means an enormous fan however man he has proven that he is the ONLY purpose that offense does something.

purchase extra time, to not run for eight yards every time. He is nonetheless primarily a pocket passer man with good accuracy. Compare this to a mediocre pocket passer who’s key capability is to attempt to run for a primary down every time. They do not final within the NFL. Russel Wilson is at all times wanting downfield, and buys time to get his WR’s open.

He’s actually good.

In remark 13669363 PatersonPlank mentioned:
purchase extra time, to not run for eight yards every time. He is nonetheless primarily a pocket passer man with good accuracy. Compare this to a mediocre pocket passer who’s key capability is to attempt to run for a primary down every time. They do not final within the NFL. Russel Wilson is at all times wanting downfield, and buys time to get his WR’s open.

He’s actually good.

Exactly. He escapes the frenzy and like Rodgers, escapes to open area so he can go the ball down the sector.

to go conservative with 2+ minutes to go.

Wilson was not going to be denied in scoring in the event you gave him the ball again.

Turns out he scored so shortly he needed to wait to see if they might grasp on…

In remark 13669270 jeff57 mentioned:
Would have my vote for MVP proper now.

I’ve to reluctantly give Brady MVP proper now what he is doing at 40 is type of insane, and second for me would reluctantly be Wentz on the midway level.

however the season is simply midway over.

The factor I like probably the most about him is he’s sensible along with his mobility when he is on the run or simply shifting round. Carson Wentz has been on this league for less than a 12 months and a half and he’s taken so many silly pointless photographs.

I don’t suppose I’ve ever seen Russel Wilson do that as soon as ever in his profession. Russell simply slides or will get out of bounds on the proper time and NEVER takes successful he shouldn’t. Facing him, he’s at all times been an actual ache within the ass.

Remember when Vick would take off and suppose he may tackle a speedy LB and would get obliterated? Haha…no.

In remark 13669380 Route 9 mentioned:
The factor I like probably the most about him is he’s sensible along with his mobility when he is on the run or simply shifting round. Carson Wentz has been on this league for less than a 12 months and a half and he’s taken so many silly pointless photographs.

I don’t suppose I’ve ever seen Russel Wilson do that as soon as ever in his profession. Russell simply slides or will get out of bounds on the proper time and NEVER takes successful he shouldn’t. Facing him, he’s at all times been an actual ache within the ass.

Remember when Vick would take off and suppose he may tackle a speedy LB and would get obliterated? Haha…no.

when Wilson was youthful he took a number of pointless photographs too, it is a part of the maturing course of.

right here is rookie Wilson, many extra like this.

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I used to be saying extra in order a runner in comparison with a few of the dumb hits QBS have taken previously. That specific play, he was nonetheless alive and nicely to go the ball and he did get it off.

Against Minnesota in that chilly sport I consider it was. I believe it was a botched snap that went over his head.

…Eli Manning strikes across the pocket to increase performs.

On 4th and lengthy. A play of desperation.

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In remark 13669261 LG in NYC mentioned:

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this is the kind of QB I might like subsequent for the Giants (ideally a bit taller)

I believe making an attempt to construct the 5 blocks of granite up entrance is 1) time consuming, and a couple of) laborious to construct and maintain. That is why we hear most staff’s weak spot is their Oline.

so except you’re going to construct that impenetrable wall up entrance, you want a QB who could make issues occur along with his legs, throw precisely on the run, escape strain and customarily be an enormous time athlete.

Lol, would not everybody desire a taller Russell Wilson?

Like a Deshaun Watson. This rookie has been superb.

Nothing extra must be mentioned.

In remark 13669404 Route 9 mentioned:
On 4th and lengthy. A play of desperation.

I do know there are extra examples too, however you in contrast him to the hits Wentz takes. Wentz is 6’5″ 240 pounds, Wilson is 5′ 11″ and 200 kilos, it is a massive distinction for Wentz to take successful than Wilson.

In remark 13669255 Jimmy Googs mentioned:

This. People like to over suppose the QB place and discover any purpose in anyway to disparage good QB play and even defend dangerous QB play.

Russel Wilson is a terrific participant. He’s the only largest purpose why Seattle has been good to nice or related since 2012. Before Wilson Seattle was a so so staff that performed fairly nicely at residence. Since Wilson they’ve been a two time NFC Champ, one time tremendous bowl champ and perennial contender.

The OL sucks and has at all times been shaky even in the perfect of occasions. They have not trotted out an enormous time operating again since Lynch fell aside a couple of years in the past. Their WRs are common to good however we aren’t speaking Gary Clark, Sanders and Monk right here.

Wilson is a high-quality participant. Just put bias apart and watch the man play. Simple.

prefer to say oh his model of play will not final or is not sustainable or groups will determine it out earlier than too lengthy.

Until that occurs the QB making performs with legs or arm or ass is a good or nice participant. RG3 fell aside so sure it occurs however RG3 fell aside as a result of he wasn’t a cerebral QB in any respect. Once the league adjusted he was cooked. Plus he received damage. Honestly even when Bob does not get damage he nonetheless would have pale. He by no means had IT.

though he was with us for less than a 12 months.

I would not be stunned if the Bevell connection affected Seattle’s drafting him

and I hate that UVA did not supply him. I believed it was fascinating final week that he attributed his expertise turning double performs in baseball with serving to keep away from getting passes batted down.

He is environment friendly, he is sensible, and he trusts his receivers to make performs.

He appears to throw a LOT of open discipline soar balls to his receivers in 1-on-1 protection and I am shocked at seemingly how nicely they arrive down with them, contemplating Baldwin, Richardson, and Lockett are all shorter receivers.

after being a bit overrated earlier in his profession, which speaks to his consistency and the very fact he is confirmed it now.

Many right here, together with some well-known banned Eli worshippers liked to knock him which is homerism at his greatest. Wilson has been a reduce above Eli since he got here into the league.

haven’t so good issues to say about him?

Would you commerce for him in the present day? And in that case, what would you give?

In remark 13669503 SHO’NUFF mentioned:
haven’t so good issues to say about him?

Yes they mentioned he wasn’t black sufficient or one thing alongside these traces. May have referred to as him an organization man…it was crap no matter was mentioned.

the system he ran in Wisconsin was fully completely different from what he did at NC State too, and he picked it up instantly.

He is one among my favourite QBs to look at.

He comes throughout as a little bit of a device. Could be far worse…..I believe his god act is corny however removed from an issue.

So many time groups and not using a cellular QB it is three and out when a QB like Wilson can scoot for a pair yards and will get the primary down it helps retains a drive going or will get one going. Always some hazard in that however I will take these odds.

who saved minimizing his capability because the product of taking part in with an ideal protection (?), however I have never seen any such damaging posts about him not too long ago.

as nicely insulated as he could also be and there are occasions the place he may be uncovered, the man is a good QB. All he has carried out since ranging from sport 1 is make performs and assist lead top-of-the-line offenses within the NFL. I do not care how a lot expertise surrounds Dak, I do know for sure he is not dragging that offense down. That a lot is clear. Some of you’ll be able to dismiss his sport till the cows come residence however Dak is placing up very very good numbers and Dallas is successful. Until he regresses, he is for actual. I do not suppose Dak is on Wilson’s stage however he is not that far off.

anybody has mentioned something damaging about him.. He is an ideal QB who is bettering.. however individuals had already began giving him accolades earlier than he ever received this good.. He nonetheless is not as good as the perfect of the earlier generations of QB (Peyton, Brees, Brady and Rodgers).. he is the perfect of the following technology..

admitted to being a bully in High School

about RW right here in some unspecified time in the future. Often in direct comparability to Eli. In truth, how the media picked on Eli however gave Russel a free go.

is a kind of guys who has proved his consistency and talent to make performs over a number of seasons, and he was a man who just about got here in and began from Day 1.

Because the QB place is such a visual one, you’ll typically see individuals soar to conclusions based mostly on a really small pattern dimension. Wilson has a SB win and is strong and deserves all of the accolades he will get.

But whilst I say that, take a look at all of the reward going to Watson, Wentz and Prescott based mostly on a lower than two seasons of play. My guess is that two years from now a minimum of a kind of guys will likely be struggling, injured or on a sizzling seat.

Wasn’t too way back individuals had been debating how a lot of a lock Cam Newton and Andrew Luck was for the HoF. Fortunes change on a dime. Guys like Wilson who carry out over a number of years needs to be those getting the reward.

with the “humble” half. From what I have been informed by somebody who is aware of a bunch of NFL gamers, Wilson is a reasonably douchey man in particular person.

In remark 13669315 ATL_Giants mentioned:

Did he actually say that? I really like PDot however that is madness and I am shocked

Yeah however the go to instance you offered by Wilson was a play the place he received flushed to the precise, on 4th down and lengthy on the final offensive play of the sport, nonetheless broke free and made a determined heave down the sector to maintain his staff on the sector. I’d type of give him a go for that one. How many Qbs wouldve damaged free from that early strain by the DE resembling that play? Not many.

Wentz then again, and plenty of different “cellular QBs”, regardless of their dimension distinction with Wilson (everybody is taller than him principally, aside from Doug Flutie), Wentz…as I mentioned earlier has taken some pointless photographs already in his brief profession the place he simply may’ve as a substitute slid, ran out of bounds and even hit the dick however he determined to attempt to “mild up” the defensive participant for a minimal acquire of perhaps one yard on the sidelines, the purpose line and generally the center of the sector. They’re pointless photographs he is taking, regardless of how massive and younger Wentz is and he is simply going to finally get damage doing so.

Other posters have pointed this out on right here. This isn’t faculty soccer anymore the place he may bounce off of smaller, slower, much less skilled gamers on protection. I don’t care since I’m not an Eagle fan, so he can stick with it all he desires to.

In remark 13669721 FatMan in Charlotte mentioned:
is a kind of guys who has proved his consistency and talent to make performs over a number of seasons, and he was a man who just about got here in and began from Day 1.

Because the QB place is such a visual one, you’ll typically see individuals soar to conclusions based mostly on a really small pattern dimension. Wilson has a SB win and is strong and deserves all of the accolades he will get.

But whilst I say that, take a look at all of the reward going to Watson, Wentz and Prescott based mostly on a lower than two seasons of play. My guess is that two years from now a minimum of a kind of guys will likely be struggling, injured or on a sizzling seat.

Wasn’t too way back individuals had been debating how a lot of a lock Cam Newton and Andrew Luck was for the HoF. Fortunes change on a dime. Guys like Wilson who carry out over a number of years needs to be those getting the reward.

Well mentioned. I like Watson however he must preserve this up and or alter as wanted. Nothing is sure.

Haha he is an Eagle. He can do no matter he desires, like I mentioned.

In remark 13669759 Tuckrule mentioned:
In remark 13669315 ATL_Giants mentioned:

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“..system quarterback.”

Did he actually say that? I really like PDot however that is madness and I am shocked

He’s been saying that for a few years. Last I heard him was within the offseason, not not too long ago. I recall he had a couple of good factors for that view, and he is aware of not everybody agrees with him. It appeared truthful.

In remark 13669712 hassan mentioned:
about RW right here in some unspecified time in the future. Often in direct comparability to Eli. In truth, how the media picked on Eli however gave Russel a free go.

To be truthful these posts had been normally made by one poster who was, let’s assume, extraordinarily protecting of Eli.

I am primarily pondering of the man who always posted just some months again about how Russell principally sucks however is masked by the protection. That man now not appears to be round although.

Very. He performs QB prefer it is an artwork kind.

In remark 13669366 Keith mentioned:
In remark 13669363 PatersonPlank mentioned:

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purchase extra time, to not run for eight yards every time. He is nonetheless primarily a pocket passer man with good accuracy. Compare this to a mediocre pocket passer who’s key capability is to attempt to run for a primary down every time. They do not final within the NFL. Russel Wilson is at all times wanting downfield, and buys time to get his WR’s open.

He’s actually good.

Exactly. He escapes the frenzy and like Rodgers, escapes to open area so he can go the ball down the sector.

Agree with this too

His capability
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to keep away from the frenzy is HUGE. He makes performs when he has to, which is what you need in a QB. I used to be by no means an enormous fan however man he has proven that he is the ONLY purpose that offense does something.

But he is a halfback that may play QB robust mixture .

it is at all times evolving. The QBs like Eli, his brother, Brady and others who’re purely pocket passers will finally lose their effectiveness.

I attribute a number of this to the truth that the defensive linemen at the moment are so significantly better than the offensive linemen. You can’t run an offense simply standing again there as a lot as you possibly can previously. The further mobility opens up extra play choices and schemes. Makes it tougher to defend too.

One day, somebody is going to take an athletic DE, put 30 kilos on him and switch him into a professional bowl left deal with. 50 years in the past the offensive linemen had been a lot lighter in comparison with in the present day. I see this evolving once more too going to the higher 200’s vs within the 300’s.

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